Posted by: starcatsastrology | January 20, 2011

2012-2015 Uranus square Pluto – rebuilding on the ashes of the old

A reader asked me what I thought generally about the upheavals in North Africa, the coming protests in Egypt and what such revolutionary outbreaks might mean for the USA, too. I sent her some email remarks which she requested I put on the blog. Later, I’ll be getting up a long piece on my Newsmakers section of starcats.com. When the article is posted, I’ll direct you there with the appropriate links. — CDD/Starcats

Dear K:
Technically, Pluto and Uranus were already part of the cardinal t-square in 2010. That t-square has broken apart.

We’re looking at 2012-2015 when Uranus in Aries will square Pluto in Capricorn 7 times. That’s where the “new” will be built upon the ashes of the old. It’s coming and not even John Boehner or Sarah Palin can stop it. Like Zinn said, you can’t be neutral on a moving train.

We’re either on the train to the future or in the ditch of denial. That’s a CDD-ism.

You can see that the Oppositions started the 20th Century. The closing square in the 30’s was Nazi Germany and the axis powers. The conjunction was the ground of change in the mid-1960’s in Virgo opposed in part by Saturn of establishment powers in Pisces. Now we’re in the waxing square phase of 2012-2015. If the 1930’s closing square was the “death square” as named by Ebertin, then this opening/waxing square is the rebirth phase. Or as Ebertin said: rebuilding on the ashes of the old.

In mundane astrology Saturn represents the forces of oppression by the powers that be and the restrictions of freedom and the burdens rulers place on the people. Uranus is THE most important political planet of all. It is, of course, about freedom, revolution, anarchy, chaos (creative and otherwise). It also represents how much freedom a society is granted by the rulers in charge. If Saturn (and pluto too) are overbearing, then Uranus seeks to redress the balance. Sooner or later, there will be an explosion.

Uranus-Pluto cycles are real ground softeners. Pluto erodes while Uranus explodes. Saturn seeks to hold on at any cost. The Saturn-Pluto opposition of 9-11 and the subsequent Saturn opposition Neptune that occurred before election 2008, were also ground softeners.

Neptune dissolves power and the “ground” on which they stand. Saturn and Neptune are arch enemies as status quo Saturn fights any force or faction that may conspire or employ subterfuge to undermine it. Meanwhile, entrenched power Plutonizes and also employs Neptune of propaganda in order to hypnotize the masses into docility.

YES, WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF A WORLD REVOLUTION! At least that’s what I think 🙂

Uranus-Pluto cycles:
Uranus-Pluto data Courtesy of Richard Nolle/Astropro.com
Uranus-Pluto Oppositions 1901-1902:
| JAN 31, 1901 | 01:26 PM | 180 | 15SA50 | 15GE50R |
| APR 29, 1901 | 06:22 PM | 180 | 16SA18R | 16GE18 |
| DEC 17, 1901 | 03:41 AM | 180 | 17SA33 | 17GE33R |
| JUN 28, 1902 | 12:16 PM | 180 | 18SA36R | 18GE36 |
| NOV 06, 1902 | 10:54 PM | 180 | 19SA19 | 19GE19R |

Closing (waning) Square 1932-1933:
| APR 21, 1932 | 02:09 PM | 270 | 20AR02 | 20CA02 |
| SEP 02, 1932 | 09:20 AM | 270 | 22AR55R | 22CA55 |
| MAR 08, 1933 | 06:30 PM | 270 | 21AR23 | 21CA23R |
| NOV 05, 1933 | 03:06 AM | 270 | 24AR44R | 24CA44R |

Conjunction 1965-1966:
OCT 09, 1965 | 08:09 PM | 000 | 17VI10 | 17VI10 |
| APR 04, 1966 | 08:40 PM | 000 | 16VI28R | 16VI28R |
| JUN 30, 1966 | 09:53 AM | 000 | 16VI06 | 16VI06

Opening (waxing) square 2012-2015:

| JUN 24, 2012 | 08:23 AM | 090 | 08AR24 | 08CP24R |
| SEP 19, 2012 | 06:42 AM | 090 | 06AR57R | 06CP57 |
| MAY 20, 2013 | 10:26 PM | 090 | 11AR14 | 11CP14R |
| NOV 01, 2013 | 11:06 AM | 090 | 09AR26R | 09CP26 |
| APR 21, 2014 | 06:42 PM | 090 | 13AR34 | 13CP34R |
| DEC 15, 2014 | 06:06 AM | 090 | 12AR35R | 12CP35 |
| MAR 17, 2015 | 01:49 AM | 090 | 15AR18 | 15CP18 |

> My hope centers around the fact that O’s health care reform mechanism will still drive the USA into bankruptcy in about 5 years. I still maintain that by our Pluto return in 2022, the USA will have claimed bankruptcy and will be casting about in desperation to refinance the whole country as we had to do in 1776. I believe that the nation is in slow motion collapse and that world revolts will force the USA into health care for all and the granting of basic necessities to all citizens.
>
> The idea that privatizing and profiting from every single possible avenue is an idea that is dying a horrible, ugly, violent death. Everyone is suffering under the U.S. predatory system. We are, and nations around the world are fed up with “Rome.”
>
> There was an interesting show on the History Channel last night about Rome and it’s last days. It’s downfall came from consumerism! From a kind of self-indulgent pampering and laziness propped up by it’s slave (now it’s the workers in the USA) population. The Republic rotted from within. I loved how the show simply discussed Rome, but you KNEW the program was a cautionary tale for the USA. It was brilliantly done.
>
> Another problem I’ve researched for the USA is that it’s natal Mars is now retrograde for a total period of 72 years. Where is the WILL to answer our problems? The will is now internalized and there is a lazy collapse continually fueled by partisan division and the bread and circuses of cable TV political pandering.
>
> USA secondary progressed Mars at 18 LI 42 in 2005. Will retro back to USA Midheaven in 2073. Mars will station at 00:01 LI in 2085 and meet USA midheaven for the final time in 2100. Secondary Mars has already crossed over the USA’s “rule of law Saturn” at 14 LI. Mars-Saturn is an aspect I call “stalemate” and “gridlock.” The date that secondary Mars crossed over the USA’s natal Saturn at 14 LI 48 was on August 20, 1979 at 9:59:49 am. Mars was direct then. Mars hit it’s retrograde station on July 20, 2005, 6:33:46 PM at 18 LI 41. It was officially in retrograde status on July 21, 2007 at 5:40:46.


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  1. thank goodness, I just heard about this ‘opening’ vs ‘closing’ Uranus-Pluto square–I mean I knew it existed, just didn’t know there was a distinct difference in manifesting too. so when I looked at the last 1931 square I cried!!!

    …sounds like a good time to begin the revolution for the Age of Aquarius, yes???

    and yes, its gonna be real heavy for the USA with our Pluto Return right after the square finishes in 2022! have you heard of other studies on Pluto Returns??? the problem is finding subjects…

    best
    milwaukee, wi

    • Dear Lisa, thank you for subscribing. I hope you’ll invite friends with your interest and expertise in astrology to join in.

      Studies on Pluto returns are rare. It takes 247 years for the planet to travel all 12 signs so historically a lot can happen in a country over that time frame. Looking back to the early 1760’s when Pluto last entered Capricorn, we get back into the history of the North American continent before the United States was born in 1776. The impress of ruthless power by King George of England was brutal. The Plutonic elements at play then involved a Plutonian life and death struggle to exist and a life and death struggle with factions within the nation to build (Saturn-Capricorn) enduring institutions of government. Pluto is now back in Capricorn and some of what’s reiterating are ruthless political forces busily working to erode or tear down government in hopes of ruthlessly rebuilding it in their own image.

      Shorter cycles of Pluto in connection with other planets such as our study of Uranus with Pluto through the early 20th century up to now pinpoint vast cycles more clearly for us. Planet energy has to operate through people who give context to broader cycles through recorded history.

      The last Uranus-Pluto square takes place in March 2015. In 5 year’s time, we’ll come to the next big timer, the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction at 0 Aquarius, the same degree in which every U.S. president is inaugurated. Then, of course, the official Pluto return takes place in 2022. My thought on the next Jupiter-Saturn conjunction prior to the Pluto return is that the U.S. presidency is going to be redefined in a very powerful way. Back in the 1770’s, when the U.S. operated under a Continental Congress, we had presidents of those congresses and presidents of various states. But there was no official President of the USA until Washington in 1789, after the U.S. Constitution had been ratified.

      I have a sense that there are going to be sweeping changes that may involve the U.S. Constitution and all 3 branches of government that culminate in a redefinition of the office of U.S. president.

      The Uranus-Pluto square, exact 7 times, is the beginning of a world-wide revolution that corresponds to a remaking of the world that fits a 21st Century paradigm. There will be some good, of course, and also some very bad. That’s the nature of humanity.

      Thank you for commenting and I look forward to hearing from you again.

      /Claudia Starcats

  2. i also think as you discussed uranus#pluto aries squre capricorn is more important because aries starting point of zodiac and capricorn is natural 10th sign of governments. indian sabcontinent under capricorn . thank you

    • We are indeed at new starts when it comes to the global family. The world cannot continue along as it has. We’ve reached a state of unsustainability. The injustices sanctioned by governments — greed, a ruthless rather than measured practice of capitalism, shortages of water, destruction of the environment and corrupt class warfare (no matter where practiced) is leading to a collapse (Pluto in Capricorn) and a re-invention or phoenix arising (Uranus in Aries) where humanity builds upon the ashes of the old and outworn. I think what we’re looking at is what I call ‘a slow motion train wreck.’ Yet, through all this, I can visualize the flower pushing up through the ash heap to greet the rays of the sun. Thank you for coming to my blog.

  3. for some reason, I don’t remember reading all of this article or your reply, thanks for a wonderful forecast of important events!

    Though I have to admit, getting done with work today and listening to the news, I got teary eyed for a long time, even at the grocery store–thinking about all of this that is coming and all of the poor people that would be so much better off if they knew about it…of course, they’d have to believe us first….

    Hope you feel better 🙂

  4. onward with the revolution, freedom fighters! 😉

  5. Do not forget that America’s natal Chiron is 20 degrees Aries. Uranus will conjunct America’s natal chiron around 2015 or 2016. Then a few years later chiron will begin its transit through the sign of aries. In the 2020’s America will experience a chiron return around the same time the pluto return occurs. This also means a pluto chiron square. Its all very exciting. In the 1930’s America did not have to deal with chiron in aries too.


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